November 3, 2007 journal, to question the secret vicarious fillii dei on the Popes Crown. In searching for this Latin term I found an interesting website perhaps neutral toward the Pope yet raising many issues I agree should be considered in this day of moderation for the established Protestant church. I ask a scholar to critique this person's opinion and it brought out another question of fact that the Catholic Church does not teach rapture and never has. Bounce that off of the moderates soft on Catholicism who are expecting Christ to come & rescue them from the chaotic mess mankind has made of this old sinful world. The question asked is the difference between the V & U in the word Vicarious substitute for Christ and God. The answer is that in the Latin language V and U mean the same. The painting Idolatry was created about 5 years ago confronts the Protestant Church and the Catholic Church on the issue of 'idolatry' which is the greatest insult to God Almighty. Applying the Roman Numerals to the Latin term Vicariovs Fillii dei which is inscribed on the Popes permanent metal crown the number value calculates to 666 spelled either way. Vicarious is spelled both with a V and a U, Vicarious - Vicariovs. The calculation again has recently come under attack in an attempt to discredit the theory of the Pope being the Antichrist just as Martin Luther accused the Poke, or dynasty of Popes, in his breakaway from the "Mother" Church in 1517 a.d. would he risk his life to pin those 95 complaints to the church door Wittenberg Germany beginning a protest now the Protestant Church. This idol debate may very well be the determining factor of life or death in all of eternity. Are we worshiping God or are we worshiping Satan? One half of the world's population is exposed to this idolatry. Most people including Protestants want to kiss his hand and have their picture made with him while he gladly accepts worship and claims to be God. Te painting idolatry has stood the test of time proving the dynasty of Popes is from the Antichrist system including its "harlot daughters" knew as its Protestant offshoots. "Some people will throw away the Bible completely just so they can believe what they want to. Unfortunately, the office of "Pope" is just not Biblical at all. Peter was not the first pope as the church claims. He also was not the "rock" as claimed by the same church. There are too many Bible descriptions of the "antichrist power" that perfectly fit the catholic church organization for anyone to deny it. It has a man (pope)at it's head or leadership. It "sees" (holy see) with the eyes of a man, not the eyes of God. The woman (church in prophecy) has a "cup" (in the mass) full of filthiness and abominations. The woman is decked with all kinds of gold and jewels (catholic church is super rich while millions starve to death and pope lives in luxury) It is described as being dressed in purple and scarlet...(ever see the pope and bishops dressed in their best?...purple and scarlet) She will "fornicate" with the "kings" (rulers) of the earth. Church and state is a major deal with the catholic religion. Politics and churches have NO business together, persecution is inevitable. The power is said to change "times and laws"...there is only one of God's laws that is also a time and that is the seventh day Sabbath commandment. The catholic church has plainly admitted for year that it "thinks" it has the power to change God's law. They also claim that sunday is the new sabbath...show me the commandment for that one... The church is referred to as a "mother of harlots" ...the catholic church has always referred to itself as the "mother" church. It is described as sitting on seven mountains...guess where the church is sitting? ...the seven hills..getting scared yet? It is said that this power would speak blasphemy...the church claims that the pope and priests can forgive sin...utter hogwash...God & Jesus alone can forgive sins. They also say that the pope is "another God on earth"...that's blasphemy in my book. The number of his name is 666...The popes title "Vicarious Fillii Dei" equals 666 in the roman numerals...ouchie! The power is said to "wear out" or persecute, torture, destroy, the saints of God...the church freely admits that it has killed millions. Conservative estimates say somewhere around 50 million...I'd say that fits perfectly. I could go on and on but unless a person sees what I have already shared, they are blind anyway so it wont matter. The historical interpretation is the correct one. This left behind junk is also a catholic heresy to cover up the real antichrist power. If they can place the antichrist in the future AFTER the rapture, then the protestant's won't recognize the truth about the catholic church. I dont know if the current pope is right with God or not. I hope he is. I am not judging his heart, but he is deluded into thinking that he can accept worship from people. Ever see Catholics kneeling down and kissing his ring? Calling him "holy father" when the bible says "call no MAN father". it's time to wake up and smell the prophecies...good day....j" Posted by: No Popes Please | October 25, 2005. Reply from Norbert Kox "In Latin the U and V are the same letter. Originally it was written as V which could represent a consonant or a vowel. So the Latin words that now may appear with a U for the vowel would have been written with a V. In Latin dictionaries the U and V words are intermingled in the same section because they are the same letter; they have the same numerical value. Much of the comment makes sense but it is not new; its more of a con-firmation to what we already knew, but there are at least 2 parts that do not make sense: "This left behind junk is also a catholic heresy to cover up the real antichrist power. If they can place the antichrist in the future AFTER the rapture, then the Protestants won't recognize the truth about the catholic church." The Catholics know that Protestants have called them antichrist from the very beginning, with Luther, and it is not ever going to change. They are more worried about keeping the wool pulled over the eyes of Catholic parishioners. They need to keep Catholics in the dark. If the Catholic hierarchy had invented the (post-) rapture theory to place antichrist in the future, they would not be concerned about deceiving Protestants, but rather Catholics, yet the Catholic Church does not teach rapture and they never did. This is the second ridiculous statement: "I don't know if the current pope is right with God or not. I hope he is. I am not judging his heart, but he is deluded into thinking that he can accept worship from people." How can he say he does not know if the current pope is right with God or not? If the Pope accepts worship from people there is no way he can be right with God."